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    Post by Ryuko Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:07 pm

    I do Kumo's and Frost's together since Kumo owns them both, rather than having a ton of threads.

    Kumogakure Update:

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    Post by Ryuko Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:09 pm

    For April

    Kumogakure Update:

    Shimogakure Update:


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    Post by Ryuko Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:10 pm

    Purchasing 5 Unarmed East Indiaman trading vessals.  Completion time is May 3rd


    13,251,000 ryo
    -500,000  =   12,751,000

    Doing the same for Frost

    515,000
    -500,000 - 15,000 remaining



    For May

    Kumogakure Update:

    Shimogakure Update:


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    Post by Ryuko Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:11 pm

    For June

    Kumogakure Update:

    Shimogakure Update:


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    Post by Ryuko Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:12 pm

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    Post by Ryuko Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:53 am

    Kumo mid month update:

    Frost Mid Month update:


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    Post by Ryuko Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:48 pm

    Note:

    Since Natsuru has left the game I am redirecting the Special 1 time Grant from the June Budget to Damian instead.


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    Post by Ryuko Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:52 pm

    Kumogakure Update:

    Shimogakure Update:


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    Post by Ryuko Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:57 am

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    Post by Ryuko Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:04 am

    Kumogakure Update:

    Shimogakure Update:


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    Post by Ryuko Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:07 am

    NPC Groups Monthly Ordinance:

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    Post by Ryuko Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:05 pm

    Starting funds - 46,382,000

    Building
    Hanger - 1,500,000
    Hanger Upgrade - 1,500,000
    1 Dreadnaught Class Airship - 6,000,000
    2 Colossus Class Airship - 10,000,000
    4 Kraken Class Airship - 16,000,000
    5 Shuttles - 1,250,000
    10 War ballons - 6,000,000
    Kurama Clan District - 750,000
    Ōtsutsuki Clan District -375,000 (Seid is paying other half)
    =43,375,000 pent

    46,382,000 - 43,375,000 = 3,007,000 Ryo remaining


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    Post by Ryuko Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:06 am

    Kumogakure Update:

    Shimogakure Update:


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    Post by Ryuko Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:20 am

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    Post by Sayuri Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:46 am

    Ryuko wrote:
    Kumogakure Update:

    Shimogakure Update:

    Ryuko wrote:NPC Groups Monthly Ordinance:

    Inner Village/ Gates:



    Outer Village/ Open Roads:


    Rain Scouts:

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    Approved~


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    Post by Ryuko Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:41 am

    Mid month update

    Village/Organization Name: Kumogakure
    Name of Current Leader: Ryuko Shizu Von Rose
    Base Size: Metropolis
    Lands Settled: Land of Lightning
    Starting Funds: 51,712,750
    Ending Funds:  8,537,750

    Total Expenses:  43,175,000
    Item 1:  Kumokagure Ninja Investment Program
    --Amount:  13,025,000
    Item 2:  Funding the Yokai military
    --Amount:  5,000,000
    Item 3:  Building a Vast base (Underground Sublevel)
    --Amount : 1,000,000
    Item 4:  Building a Royal Vault for the Vast Base (Underground Sublevel)
    --Amount  150,000
    Item 5:  Buying A-rank secrecy for the Vast Base (Underground Sublevel)
    --Amount  40,000
    Item 6:  Buying S-rank walls for the Vast Bases (Underground Sublevel)  + (The Frost Defence Wall)
    --Amount: 400,000
    Item 7: Buying 20 A-rank traps for the Vast Base (Underground Sub level)
    --Amount:  150,000
    Item 8: Buying 20 A-rank traps for the Vast Base (The Frost Defence Wall)
    --Amount: 150,000
    Item 9: Buying a Sasaki clan District
    --Amount: 750,000
    Item 10:  Building a Town in the Northwestren land of lightning - Tamwynnia
    --Amount: 3,000,000
    Item 11: Building a Town in the Iyashi Highlands - Rivia
    --Amount: 3,000,000
    Item 12: Building a Town in the Glacier Trail - Vengerberg
    --Amount: 3,000,000
    Item 13: Building a Town in the Frigid Isles - Aretuza
    --Amount : 3,000,000
    Item 14: Building a Town in the Bitter Foothills  - Blaviken
    --Amount: 3,000,000
    Item 15: Building a Town in Valley of Hell - Karakura
    --Amount: 3,000,000
    Item 16: Stocking the armory
    --Amount: 1,810,000
    Item 17:  Buying 30 C rank guards
    --Amount: 600,000
    Item 18: Training 30 C rank guards to B rank
    --Amount: 600,000
    Item 19: Training 30 B rank guards to A rank
    --Amount: 750,000
    Item 20: Building a Nature Clan District
    --Amount: 750,000


    Stocking the armory (All A-rank items from Darhk Industries)
    Adamantite-Silk Kumogakure Flak Jacket  x20
    Adamantite Mail Shirt x10
    Adamantite-Silk  Gloves x10
    Adamantite-Silk  Sandals x10
    Adamantite Combat Boots x10
    Adamantite-Silk Uniform Pants x10
    Adamantite-Silk Uniform Body Armor x10
    Adamantite-Silk Kerchief x10
    Adamantite-Silk Cloak x10
    Adamantite-Silk Forehead Protector x20
    Adamantite Happuri x20
    Adamantite Breast and Back Plate x10
    Adamantite Forearm and Backhand Guards x10
    Adamantite Shin Guards x10
    Adamantite Waist and Hip Guards x10
    Adamantite Upper Arm Guards x10




    Kumokagure Ninja investment Program

    Nariko Mizushima -  1,000,000
    Seid Otsutsuki -    1,000,000
    Seigi Chinoike -   1,000,000
    Shimiko Chinoike - 1,000,000

    Irui Mikiri - 1,000,000

    Andariel Bloodworth -1,000,000
    Mōtimā Midori-Okō Kurama -1,000,000
    Rini Nakamura  -1,000,000
    Tamwyn  - 1,000,000
    Yui and Yua Chinoike -1,000,000

    Damian Darhk -1,000,000
    Elliryanna Lailoken -1,000,000
    Yenn Inazuma -1,025,000 (starter package included)

    Note:  keeping 8.5 Million in the vault in the bank Putting 4 million in the Royal vault located in the Underground Sub level


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    Post by Sayuri Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:44 am

    Ryuko wrote:Mid month update

    Village/Organization Name: Kumogakure
    Name of Current Leader: Ryuko Shizu Von Rose
    Base Size: Metropolis
    Lands Settled: Land of Lightning
    Starting Funds: 85,649,750
    Ending Funds:  32,474,750

    Total Expenses:  53,175,000
    Item 1:  Kumokagure Ninja Investment Program
    --Amount:  13,025,000
    Item 2:  Funding the Yokai military
    --Amount:  5,000,000
    Item 3:  Building a Vast base (Underground Sublevel)
    --Amount : 1,000,000
    Item 4:  Building a Royal Vault for the Vast Base (Underground Sublevel)
    --Amount  150,000
    Item 5:  Buying A-rank secrecy for the Vast Base (Underground Sublevel)
    --Amount  40,000
    Item 6:  Buying S-rank walls for the Vast Bases (Underground Sublevel)  + (The Frost Defence Wall)
    --Amount: 400,000
    Item 7: Buying 20 A-rank traps for the Vast Base (Underground Sub level)
    --Amount:  150,000
    Item 8: Buying 20 A-rank traps for the Vast Base (The Frost Defence Wall)
    --Amount: 150,000
    Item 9: Buying a Sasaki clan District
    --Amount: 750,000
    Item 10:  Building a Town in the Northwestren land of lightning - Tamwynnia
    --Amount: 3,000,000
    Item 11: Building a Town in the Iyashi Highlands - Rivia
    --Amount: 3,000,000
    Item 12: Building a Town in the Glacier Trail - Vengerberg
    --Amount: 3,000,000
    Item 13: Building a Town in the Frigid Isles - Aretuza
    --Amount : 3,000,000
    Item 14: Building a Town in the Bitter Foothills  - Blaviken
    --Amount: 3,000,000
    Item 15: Building a Town in Valley of Hell - Karakura
    --Amount: 3,000,000
    Item 16: Stocking the armory
    --Amount: 1,810,000
    Item 17:  Buying 30 C rank guards
    --Amount: 600,000
    Item 18: Training 30 C rank guards to B rank
    --Amount: 600,000
    Item 19: Training 30 B rank guards to A rank
    --Amount: 750,000
    Item 20: Building a Nature Clan District
    --Amount: 750,000
    Item 21: Paving the roads in Lightning Country
    --Amount: 10,000,000

    Stocking the armory (All A-rank items from Darhk Industries)
    Adamantite-Silk Kumogakure Flak Jacket  x20
    Adamantite Mail Shirt x10
    Adamantite-Silk  Gloves x10
    Adamantite-Silk  Sandals x10
    Adamantite Combat Boots x10
    Adamantite-Silk Uniform Pants x10
    Adamantite-Silk Uniform Body Armor x10
    Adamantite-Silk Kerchief x10
    Adamantite-Silk Cloak x10
    Adamantite-Silk Forehead Protector x20
    Adamantite Happuri x20
    Adamantite Breast and Back Plate x10
    Adamantite Forearm and Backhand Guards x10
    Adamantite Shin Guards x10
    Adamantite Waist and Hip Guards x10
    Adamantite Upper Arm Guards x10




    Kumokagure Ninja investment Program

    Nariko Mizushima -  1,000,000
    Seid Otsutsuki -    1,000,000
    Seigi Chinoike -   1,000,000
    Shimiko Chinoike - 1,000,000

    Irui Mikiri - 1,000,000

    Andariel Bloodworth -1,000,000
    Mōtimā Midori-Okō Kurama -1,000,000
    Rini Nakamura  -1,000,000
    Tamwyn  - 1,000,000
    Yui and Yua Chinoike -1,000,000

    Damian Darhk -1,000,000
    Elliryanna Lailoken -1,000,000
    Yenn Inazuma -1,025,000 (starter package included)

    Note:  Keeping 10 Million in the regular village vault.  Putting 5 million in the Vault located at Shimiko Tower for Safekeeping and 15 million in the Royal vault located in the Underground Sub level

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    Post by Shimiko Chinoike Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:16 pm

    I'm sorry but I'm going to have to unapprove all of these updates. All money granted as a result of these updates are revoked until we can figure out what is going on.


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    Post by Uchiha Akihiro Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:02 pm

    Hey guys. Lyon here.
    Posting to provide assistance on some of these updates which were done incorrectly. I got permission to do so.

    Please don't take anything personally, I was asked to come here and help and that's what I'm doing.

    So, issues.

    Issue number 1: Fisheries and Tartares.
    Kumo April Updates wrote:Item 2: Fishery (3)
    --Amount: 300,000
    Item 2.5: 15x Tartanes
    --Amount: 1,125,000


    This is not how Tartares work.
    Gladius War System wrote:Each Tartan increases the income of the resource site by 25% of its base income (so a 100,000 ryo income will become 125,000 ryo income with 1 Tartane).

    The tartares increase the value of already existing fisheries. They do not create new fisheries with increased value.
    A fishery with 5 tartares is worth 225% of its original value.

    So a fishery with 5 Tartares is worth 225,000 Ryo
    You have 3.
    So the most you can pull from there is 675,000 Ryo.
    You're somehow pulling 1,425,000 Ryo.

    Frost May Updates wrote:
    Item 1: Fish (1)
    -Amount: 100,000
    Item 1.5: 15x Tartanes
    --Amount: 375,000

    Again how does Frost have 1 fishery but is using 15 tartares?
    Where did these ships come from?


    Note: Also please take note that you don't buy ships.You build them, and it takes time. Most if not all of these tartares aren't valid because of this.

    Kumo May Updates wrote:Item 2.5: 20x Tartanes
    --Amount: 500,000
    Same problem, but also two others.

    You had 15 Tartares in May.
    Where the these extra 5 come from?

    Also, the war system clearly states that there's a cap of 5 tartares per fishing resource. You have 3 fisheries, and 20 tartares.
    That just straight up doesn't work.


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    Trade Routes.

    May Updates wrote:--Amount: 1,500,000 [Crops (1), Fish (2), Livestock (1), Wood (1)]
    Item 9: East Indian Trade route [Frost]
    --Amount: 11,250,000

    Rules wrote:Each level produces 100,000 Ryo of income per month, and a village is capable of collecting up to three levels of income per resource. Some villages will be better set in their own resources than others, and in the case of excess or lacking resources, trading becomes necessary.

    A village can only reap benefits from up to 3 levels per resource, and it can only trade what it has excess of.
    Which means that in order to benefit from a resource in a trade route, you need to have either 4 or 5 of that resource and can only trade up to 2 of it.

    In addition, the Land you're trading with must have a need for that resource, which means they'll need to have a 0, 1 or 2. And you can only trade enough to make it a 3.

    Here are the resources of Frost:
    Rules wrote:Land of Frost
    Crops: Level 1
    Fish: Level 3
    Livestock: Level 1
    Metals: Level 1
    Wood: Level 1
    To put it bluntly, Frost cannot trade anything to you.

    And Kumogakure can only trade ONE Metal resource, because you have 4 of it. Kumogakure can't trade anything else.

    So what you'd have to do is: Setup a trade route to Frost, trading metal.
    Then Frost's Resources would look like this:

    Frost Resources plus Trade Route wrote:Crops: Level 1
    Fish: Level 3
    Livestock: Level 1
    Metals: Level 1 +1
    Wood: Level 1

    And you'd be able to reap the benefits of this +1 in the Land of Frost updates.
    +1 means 100,000 ryo

    The trade route is worth 100,000 Ryo.

    Now you apply the East Indiamen on this trade route, from Kumo.
    War System wrote:An armed Trading Galleon can be used to boost a Trade Route's base income by 150%.
    So a trade route worth 100,000 ryo will now be worth 250,000 ryo. With maintenance, this adds up to a net gain of 110,000 ryo.
    A cap of 5 Armed Traders can be used on each Trade Route. With 5 Armed Traders, a trade route worth 100,000 ryo per month will now be worth 850,000 ryo per month. It's really profitable, but also a serious risk if your ships are sunk.

    Your trade route to Frost is worth 100,000 ryo which become 850,000 Ryo per month when you use 5 East Indiamen.

    You're pulling 11,250,000 Ryo out of it, incorrectly.

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    It's 4 am for me so I'm gonna head to bed now. I just wanted to point out the issues with these updates which result from a misunderstanding of the Trade Route system.

    I didn't have time to fix everything up neatly like I wanted to, but hopefully you'll be able to understand what's wrong with the way you did the numbers and fix it yourself.

    If you have any doubts, feel free to DM me on discord.
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    Post by Ryuko Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:03 pm


    Issue number 1: Fisheries and Tartares.
    Kumo April Updates wrote:Item 2: Fishery (3)
    --Amount: 300,000
    Item 2.5: 15x Tartanes
    --Amount: 1,125,000


    This is not how Tartares work.
    Gladius War System wrote:Each Tartan increases the income of the resource site by 25% of its base income (so a 100,000 ryo income will become 125,000 ryo income with 1 Tartane).

    The tartares increase the value of already existing fisheries. They do not create new fisheries with increased value.
    A fishery with 5 tartares is worth 225% of its original value.

    So a fishery with 5 Tartares is worth 225,000 Ryo
    You have 3.
    So the most you can pull from there is 675,000 Ryo.
    You're somehow pulling 1,425,000 Ryo.


    Tartane increase by the Base income .

    So if you are collecting from 3 sites that's 300,000

    300,000 x .25 = 75,000 x 15 (Cap of 5 Tartane per resource site) = 1,125,000

    Note that you still get the base. It doesn't just disappear into thin air.

    Frost May Updates wrote:
    Item 1: Fish (1)
    -Amount: 100,000
    Item 1.5: 15x Tartanes
    --Amount: 375,000

    Again how does Frost have 1 fishery but is using 15 tartares?
    Where did these ships come from?



    Note: Also please take note that you don't buy ships.You build them, and it takes time. Most if not all of these tartares aren't valid because of this.

    Due to trade Frost was only collecting fish from 1 of it's fishery but that month but that doesn't mean the other 2 cease to exist.  

    I though that having them for 2 thirds of the month meant It was enough of to claim income for that month but I'm in the process of correcting for the build time at the moment and fixing that


    Kumo May Updates wrote:Item 2.5: 20x Tartanes
    --Amount: 500,000
    Same problem, but also two others.

    You had 15 Tartares in May.
    Where the these extra 5 come from?

    Also, the war system clearly states that there's a cap of 5 tartares per fishing resource. You have 3 fisheries, and 20 tartares.
    That just straight up doesn't work.

    I built the extra 5 in May but again I'm working on correcting for build time

    Kumo has up to 4 fish resoruces. You can still build a resoruce collection site for the excess resocures. In fact you have to in order to trade them.

    4 fish x 5 tartare per fish  = 20 Tartare


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    Trade Routes.

    May Updates wrote:--Amount: 1,500,000 [Crops (1), Fish (2), Livestock (1), Wood (1)]
    Item 9: East Indian Trade route [Frost]
    --Amount: 11,250,000

    Rules wrote:Each level produces 100,000 Ryo of income per month, and a village is capable of collecting up to three levels of income per resource. Some villages will be better set in their own resources than others, and in the case of excess or lacking resources, trading becomes necessary.

    A village can only reap benefits from up to 3 levels per resource, and it can only trade what it has excess of.
    Which means that in order to benefit from a resource in a trade route, you need to have either 4 or 5 of that resource and can only trade up to 2 of it.

    In addition, the Land you're trading with must have a need for that resource, which means they'll need to have a 0, 1 or 2. And you can only trade enough to make it a 3.

    Sorry but nowhere on the Resources page or the War page does it say ANYTHING about only trading what you have an excess.  

    Therefore I can trade whatever resources I have on hand freely as long as no village is collecting on any more then 3 of said resource


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    Everything should be fixed now!


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    Post by Uchiha Akihiro Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:56 pm

    Ryuko wrote:Tartane increase by the Base income .

    So if you are collecting from 3 sites that's 300,000

    300,000 x .25 = 75,000 x 15 (Cap of 5 Tartane per resource site) = 1,125,000

    Note that you still get the base. It doesn't just disappear into thin air.

    This is factually wrong. I know because I built the system.

    The tartares work as an UPGRADE to the fisheries. It boosts the basic income.

    This is clearly described in the War System:
    War System wrote:. Each Tartan increases the income of the resource site by 25% of its base income (so a 100,000 ryo income will become 125,000 ryo income with 1 Tartane).

    Your math is wrong because you're wrongly applying the modifier, and I already explained to you how to make it right:

    Each tartane adds 25,000 ryo to your basic fishery income (25% of 100,000)

    1 fishery with 5 tartares:
    100,000 + 25,000*5 = 225,000 Ryo

    You have 3 fisheries with 5 tartares, so you get 675,000 Ryo.


    Ryuko wrote: You can still build a resoruce collection site for the excess resocures. In fact you have to in order to trade them.

    Yes, this is true. But Tartares only increase the income of a RESOURCE SITE. You're applying the tartare modifier to a TRADE INCOME, which isn't possible.

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    Ryuko wrote:Sorry but nowhere on the Resources page or the War page does it say ANYTHING about only trading what you have an excess.

    Therefore I can trade whatever resources I have on hand freely as long as no village is collecting on any more then 3 of said resource

    I'm sorry but this is a loophole abuse that should in no way be allowed.

    It's obvious that you can only trade excess resources.
    Rules wrote:Each level produces 100,000 Ryo of income per month, and a village is capable of collecting up to three levels of income per resource. Some villages will be better set in their own resources than others, and in the case of excess or lacking resources, trading becomes necessary.

    This is what the underlined sentence implies. Maybe it's not clear enough but this is how trading has always worked on the site and how it was meant to work.
    You're arguing semantics to abuse this system. If what you require is a clarification then I suggest we add clearly that you can only trade EXCESS resources to places LACKING them.

    This is how trade has always worked.
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    Post by Ryuko Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:29 pm

    Uchiha Akihiro wrote:
    Yes, this is true. But Tartares only increase the income of a RESOURCE SITE. You're applying the tartare modifier to a TRADE INCOME, which isn't possible.  

    Yes because  Tartares and Trade ships use the same type of language about how they work.

    Tartares boost base income by 25%
    Trade ships boost base income by 150%

    There's a reason the word base in bolded on both in the rules because it can fluctuate.  In the case of a resource from 100,000 to 300,000   depending on how many resource sites you collect from

    Here's an example from the rules about how to treat the base income of a resource site which proves the way I'm doing the math is correct.

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    Uchiha Akihiro wrote:
    I'm sorry but this is a loophole abuse that should in no way be allowed.

    It's obvious that you can only trade excess resources.
    Rules wrote:Each level produces 100,000 Ryo of income per month, and a village is capable of collecting up to three levels of income per resource. Some villages will be better set in their own resources than others, and in the case of excess or lacking resources, trading becomes necessary.

    This is what the underlined sentence implies. Maybe it's not clear enough but this is how trading has always worked on the site and how it was meant to work.
    You're arguing semantics to abuse this system. If what you require is a clarification then I suggest we add clearly that you can only trade EXCESS resources to places LACKING them.

    This is how trade has always worked.

    It's not a loophole.  It isn't saying anywhere that "You can only trade if you have excess and only with someone who has a deficient".

    All it'll saying is that if you have more then a resource then you can take advantage of or not enough of one to hit the limit you need to trade  to make the most of things which when you think about it is a pretty obvious statement.

    There's no implication of anything else.  The idea that is how trade has always worked is nothing more but wishful thinking on your part.

    Even if we changed the rules going forward which I'm empirically against that wouldn't invalidate trades that were made before the new rules are implemented retroactively. Otherwise we'd pretty much have to go back and redo the financials of every village from scratch.


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    Post by Shimiko Chinoike Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:15 pm

    Staff has decided that Ryuko's interpretation of the War System rules is correct and the most faithful/accurate reading of the mechanics described. The audit is officially lifted and all players may claim updates related to it in accordance with Ryuko's adjusted values.


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